How To Increase Your Health, Wealth, & Love.

[00:00:00] Entertainment Insights Don't Take Life Too Seriously. Welcome to Brainsky Unleashed.

[00:00:10] Hello everyone, welcome to Brainsky Unleashed. Today we have Kevin Palmeri joining us.

[00:00:17] Kevin Palmeri has a podcast, he is a founder of next level university and when I say this

[00:00:23] man is a podcast, he only has about 900,000 listeners across 160 countries. So very well respected,

[00:00:31] very well known and this is the kind of guy that spends his time helping people. And here we are

[00:00:36] in the season of giving and my gift to you ladies and gentlemen is Kevin Palmeri. So Kevin,

[00:00:42] welcome. Thomas, thank you so very much for having me. I appreciate it. I appreciate the time

[00:00:47] and I'm excited to see where we go with our conversation. Absolutely. And with an intro like that,

[00:00:51] you just can't fail. Well usually what I say is hopefully I can live up to the introduction

[00:00:56] and the reputation you've created for me. Yes, well hopefully we can. So let's just jump right into it.

[00:01:03] You work with people that you try and get them to reset their minds because everything in life

[00:01:09] if you're going to be successful is mainly attitude based, right? That's a big part attitude,

[00:01:13] behavior, mindset. But even the first step is let's help you figure out what is success for you.

[00:01:20] One of the hardest parts of the self-improvement space and just I mean any space but self-improvement in

[00:01:26] general is you're giving a very specific piece of advice to a wide web of humans and not everybody

[00:01:35] wants to be a millionaire. Not everybody wants to be married with children, not everybody wants

[00:01:41] to be an entrepreneur. So step one is usually if nobody was going to judge this and nobody was

[00:01:47] ever going to see what your own unique version of success looked like, right down with that would

[00:01:51] actually look like. And let's talk about that because I don't know what's worse Thomas thinking

[00:01:57] that you want to result and never getting it or thinking you want to result getting it and then

[00:02:01] realizing you didn't want the result in the first place. Interesting. You know, I don't normally

[00:02:06] I don't normally look at things that way. And so if I don't I mean clearly I'm the most normal

[00:02:11] individual there is on earth but if I'm not normally seeing it that way, there's at least a high

[00:02:16] probability that others aren't. And you know I've been through plenty of you know, self-help things,

[00:02:22] you know, you tell your robins is your you know, your speakers, your books, your all this other stuff.

[00:02:27] But that's a really interesting perspective is really getting down to what you might really want

[00:02:33] versus what you think you really want. So how do we do that? Give me an example like what does

[00:02:38] that look like? Let's just say I'm sitting there I'm on your couch in your studio that you probably

[00:02:42] don't have. And and you know I come to you and I say, I want things I have a desire can you help

[00:02:51] me what does this look like? Usually so this is what people it starts with this these are the results

[00:02:57] I want awesome. I love that. That's that's the the 10,000 30,000 50,000 foot few amazing. Yeah tell

[00:03:04] me what your day looks like though. That's what I want. I care more about what is the day to day

[00:03:10] looking like for you. And here's here's an example why I was working with someone one time and he

[00:03:15] said, I want to do exactly what you guys are doing. And I said, okay. And he said but eventually I

[00:03:22] want to get to the place that you guys want to get to the top of the top in the self-improvement space.

[00:03:25] Awesome. That's our goal. And I said, well let me check on your day to day on a scale of zero to 10

[00:03:32] how much do you think you'll value and how important do you think it'll be to you to get your kids off

[00:03:39] the bus. And he said, oh 10 out of 10. That's all right. What about going to their sporting events

[00:03:44] and that type of stuff? Parent teacher conference all that. He said 10 out of 10. Of course. I mean you

[00:03:49] had you don't want to sound like an A-hole by going, ah, you know what I want to outsource the kids

[00:03:52] getting off the right, right, right. But but I and I know this person. So for him this was this was

[00:03:56] real. He's a family man at heart. And I said, do you think that the life and the results that

[00:04:02] you're giving me are in alignment or are not going to work with the lifestyle that you want to live.

[00:04:10] And after that conversation digging deeper and deeper we got to the point where he said, you know

[00:04:15] what? That probably isn't it for me. So usually what I like to do is say core values core beliefs

[00:04:22] and core aspirations. If your core beliefs, your core values and your core aspirations are misaligned.

[00:04:29] It's usually if your core values and your core beliefs are misaligned with your aspirations.

[00:04:34] That's where we get in trouble. Asperations are what we want, right? Values are who we are,

[00:04:40] beliefs are what we believe. If those are in alignment you're usually in a better spot. So yeah,

[00:04:45] what is your day-to-day life look like and what really matters to you and what do you value not what

[00:04:50] do you want the results of your life to be. Right. So that's interesting. So then from there,

[00:04:56] are you going to suggest chunking it down to certain hours per day or certain tasks that need to be

[00:05:02] done? Yeah. So we tend to do like five years out, then we'll do a year out, then we'll do a quarter

[00:05:09] out and then the quarter out leads to these are the habits that you should probably be practicing

[00:05:14] every day. Okay. So you're working essentially with a giant goal setting exercise while trying

[00:05:20] to maintain reality. The reality of being, you know, you may say you want this but does it actually

[00:05:28] align with who you are and where you belong? Well, you know, if if your priorities are as you said,

[00:05:33] getting the kids off the bus watching the soccer games, making the cookies, making the lunches,

[00:05:37] you know, all this other stuff. Well, if you don't have time to dedicate to the project that you

[00:05:43] say you want, yeah, stop there. Yeah. And then so one of their habits might be spend two hours

[00:05:50] a day with the family. But for me, so this is a really good way to look at it. Last year, I think I

[00:05:57] went on like 600 other podcasts, but I'm the best. You're the best. Well, you're you're,

[00:06:02] you're this year. So you'll run this year's award number one, 2022, yes, yes. And coming to the end

[00:06:09] of the year, too. So I have a lot of I have a lot of reps to put you. I mean, I look forward to

[00:06:13] speaking to you again on January 2nd. So that way I could ring 2024 as well. Well, yeah,

[00:06:19] you'll get it early. Right. I mean, I'm a winner. Yeah. 100%. 100%. So the reason I the reason I put

[00:06:25] that in there is because my goal is to be the best podcast or possible. Other people shouldn't

[00:06:31] be on that many shows because it doesn't serve their purpose. Right. It just isn't what they should

[00:06:35] be doing because it's not what they value. If your day to day can make up the weeks, the make up

[00:06:42] the months and make up the years that will ultimately lead you to the version of success that you want,

[00:06:46] that is that is really what we're playing for. And then another unique approach that we try to take

[00:06:51] is we try to break it up into health, wealth and love. Health, wake up and weigh yourself and track

[00:06:57] your calories and drink enough water and exercise for 30 minutes. Well, track your finances, learn

[00:07:02] every single day, make connections with business potential, whatever it is. And then love if you have

[00:07:06] a family, I want you to spend the amount of time with your family that is aligned for you.

[00:07:12] And if you can do those things, there is no more sustainable life when you're doing the things

[00:07:17] that actually fulfill you as a human and bring you closer to the goals that you have determined are

[00:07:21] most aligned. So basically what you're saying is that you're helping people balance their lives

[00:07:27] through goal setting, through planning, through time management. So these are tools and the tool

[00:07:33] chests that you're using that most of us completely ignore that are actually sitting there right at

[00:07:37] our fingertips. I like the word juggling instead of balance because it is a juggle. It really is.

[00:07:44] Yeah. Yeah. Depending on the season right now is a heavy business season. So I'm going to the gym

[00:07:50] every other day where six months ago I was going to the gym seven times a week and business was

[00:07:54] different. But yeah, it's if you think about somebody who's growing a business they focus on certain

[00:08:00] numbers. But for some reason the second we leave the office and we go home, we don't look at numbers

[00:08:05] anymore. It's just like well, yeah my relationships okay, my body is okay. I don't really I don't

[00:08:10] really know what I'm doing. It's just take the numbers that you're tracking and bring them home with

[00:08:14] you and then put them into your love life and put them into your your health as well. So break down

[00:08:20] from the numbering of love life. Like what what's an example of numbering a love life? I mean,

[00:08:27] you can number a gym. I do X amount of reps. You know, you can number a business. I bring an X amount

[00:08:32] of revenue or sell X amount of widgets who are make X amount of phone calls. Numbering a love life,

[00:08:38] five hug my wife how many times a day like what is that? What does that look like? You know,

[00:08:43] I've packed my kids on the back and it's my dog and yeah again. So even that I hug my wife X amount

[00:08:49] of times a day that could be it. I have X amount of meaningful moments with my partner per day.

[00:08:55] My wife and I have something called the gratitude game where every night before we go to bed,

[00:08:58] we say one thing we're great before about one another and you just check it off. Did that yesterday

[00:09:03] did that the next day blah blah blah blah blah. That's a really good one. For some people it might

[00:09:08] be a weekly adventure. It might not be a daily check mark. It might be every week because maybe

[00:09:14] hypothetically your partner values fun unique experiences more than you do. So you want to make

[00:09:19] sure that your partner is getting their cup filled because you realize that your cup and their

[00:09:24] cup are just a little bit different. Right. I just think it's more about the measurement. What can we

[00:09:29] start measuring? Can we just say okay, we're going to do every day. We're going to try to have a

[00:09:33] mindful moment together where we turn off the pressure of the world and we just hug.

[00:09:39] Check it off when we get to the point where we've done that every day for a week.

[00:09:44] Maybe we'll start to see some level of deeper connections, some level of result. Okay, cool.

[00:09:48] Then maybe we can say all right, now that we have that down to a sustainable practice,

[00:09:52] what can we add to it? Maybe it's a weekly trip. Maybe it's I love having me nights where my wife does

[00:10:00] her thing and I do my thing. That's something that we're measuring now. Okay, I need a ween a me night.

[00:10:04] You need a me night awesome. Right. So it's very custom to the person but even the meaningful moments

[00:10:09] that you said yeah, you could start off with a minute of hugs a day. Oh see, you know, I kind of

[00:10:13] like where you're going. It's a little bit different than your typical run of the mill

[00:10:18] advice column, advice session that you know well, you know, but set goals follow goals, check on

[00:10:25] goals measure goals, write more goals. Yeah. So let's then talk about your success rating

[00:10:32] not just with yourself, but other people. I mean, you know, do you have any examples of

[00:10:37] success stories and what does that look like? In terms of success stories in terms of what?

[00:10:42] People you've helped. You know, no one, no one people that you've just made massive differences

[00:10:47] in or even you just, you know, good, different, you know, remarkable differences in their life.

[00:10:56] Yeah, so for us it's kind of the stuff behind the scenes that you'll never see because you might not

[00:11:01] know the person but just as an example, we have someone on our team. So this is someone that works

[00:11:06] with us every single day and we're a self-improvement company. So our goal is to help the team as much

[00:11:10] as anyone else. And we have several people who have exercised every single day for over a year.

[00:11:16] So one of our team members did miles from mindset and he ran a mile every single day for like 400

[00:11:23] days straight. Rain, snow, sleet, hail, it doesn't matter. He's very disciplined but he just needed

[00:11:30] a little bit of extra direction. Yeah. Somebody else on the team who had a really, really negative

[00:11:35] relationship with their body to the point where they call, they at one point called it a broken piece

[00:11:39] of garbage. Wow. And they didn't think they could exercise at all. They didn't think they could

[00:11:44] pour into their own unique self-love and they've exercised every day for over a year.

[00:11:49] Those are just simple examples of when you have the right people around you, positive people,

[00:11:54] really, they don't have to be coaches, they don't have to be people into self-improvement like us

[00:11:58] but positive people. That's one step. When you have people who put wings, what wind into your wings

[00:12:04] and wind into your sales, that's another huge thing. The necessity, okay there's other people doing

[00:12:10] what I'm doing. I want to make sure I don't let the team down. That's a huge thing.

[00:12:14] The accountability of having other people around watching what you do, that's a huge thing.

[00:12:19] One of my favorite things I've ever done, Thomas, I went to the mall with a listener of our podcast.

[00:12:25] She reached out to me and said, I'm terrified to start conversations with strangers. I always feel

[00:12:29] like I'm an outsider in these conversations and I don't know, I just kind of want to take control

[00:12:34] my life. All right cool. So we went to the mall and I said by the end of today, my goal is to have

[00:12:39] you talking to strangers and starting conversations with strangers and doing the stuff that you just

[00:12:43] didn't believe was possible for you. So we meet, hug it out. First of all don't meet strangers at

[00:12:49] the mall. It's the first thing I said to this person. We know each other so it's good but we went

[00:12:53] into this store and I said all I want you to do is start by asking them how much all of these things

[00:12:57] are and she said there's no way. There's no way. I said they are going to be bored. They want to talk

[00:13:03] to you. It's going to make their day. Just borrow my belief and do that. That went well. We went to

[00:13:08] another store. We went to another store. We went to another store and by the time we were getting

[00:13:12] ready to leave that day for some reason there were these mechanical zoo animals with wheels that

[00:13:18] you can rent. Yeah, I've seen these. Have you seen those? Hey, where is this? It's a New Hampshire.

[00:13:23] Oh, okay. I saw them in New Jersey recently at the American mall or whatever it's called

[00:13:28] the big business. Yeah, I tell you what I wanted to get on those things. Well, this person said if

[00:13:33] we were really brave, we would rent those and ride those around the mall. That's strange. Come on.

[00:13:37] It was I didn't want to do it at all. I didn't want to do it. What? But I have a video on my phone of

[00:13:42] us riding these things around the mall and I show this when I when I do speaking engagements.

[00:13:49] After this person ended up going back to college even though they've been told they were too stupid.

[00:13:53] They got a 3.9 GPA so I think they did just fine. Nice. They ended up coming on our team

[00:13:59] and worked with us for several years. Then they ended up moving from a small town in Rhode

[00:14:03] Islands to Nashville chasing their dreams. They got the job of their dreams and now they have a home

[00:14:08] out there. That was just one conversation, one bout of fear chasing, one day of action that they

[00:14:16] might not have taken if somebody wasn't helping them or guiding them to do it. That's always my

[00:14:20] favorite success story. I did that. That's fantastic. You got to ride those silly little animals.

[00:14:25] I'm telling you, they're pretty quick. They look like it. I saw a bunch of kids on it and

[00:14:31] I really wanted to ride it but what kind of guy would I be if I ran up to a kid and threw them off

[00:14:36] the thing that I could ride it? It might not look so good. Not that I care. I guess I care a little

[00:14:41] bit. You've obviously helped a lot of people. You communicate with people every single day.

[00:14:49] Somewhere you can probably pull an estimated statistic out of your head or an estimated idea.

[00:15:00] What is people in general, the biggest fear that people suffer from that hold them back?

[00:15:08] Failure, rejection and judgment. Those are the three. You've got an audience that is listening.

[00:15:16] You've got 900,000 people plus myself of course. 900,000 everyone. How can we overcome the fear

[00:15:25] of rejection? The fear of failure? These fears. Unfortunately, now more than ever, I think the only way

[00:15:34] to overcome it is to experience it. That's my advice. Just do it. Just get out there and do it.

[00:15:41] I think you have to. It's one of those same thoughts. I've met a lot of people who say,

[00:15:47] hey, have you ever tried this food? They say, no, that's disgusting.

[00:15:52] But they've never tried the food. They don't know the food is actually disgusting. They just

[00:15:55] assume it is. Then it becomes an awful and it's item that they're never going to have.

[00:15:59] It could be disgusting but you don't really know until you try it.

[00:16:01] It could be the worst thing you've ever had or it could be your new favorite food depending on

[00:16:05] you actually trying it. It's the simple thing of exposure therapy. We have to expose ourselves to

[00:16:11] the things that we're afraid of but in micro quantities, if you are afraid of public speaking,

[00:16:17] the last thing you should do is get on stage in front of a thousand people for your first speech

[00:16:20] or you should probably practice in the mirror or practice into your cell phone.

[00:16:24] But that requires bravery. It requires courage and the biggest thing I think it requires is humility.

[00:16:31] The humility to say, I am going to do something today that in the grand scheme of everything seems

[00:16:36] like nothing but I do believe it will be a good foundation for me to start. But it's very humbling

[00:16:42] to start from what seems like less than zero unfortunately but I think we've all been there

[00:16:47] in some category of life. Do you feel that in order to be truly successful in the realm that

[00:16:54] you're talking about? Not necessarily successful as what we would define maybe as I've got

[00:16:59] an X amount of net worth. But successful with one cell, do you feel that there is a necessity for

[00:17:08] spiritual connection or does that seem to matter? In my belief, I feel like there has to be

[00:17:16] something bigger than myself. I have to be able to achieve something bigger than myself, answer

[00:17:22] to something bigger than myself. Is there a necessity for that for for exponential growth or

[00:17:29] or not? Do you think it's not controversial but I don't mind unless you do. No, no. I'm somebody who

[00:17:37] believes in spirituality. I don't practice a religion or look to a religion but even to your point,

[00:17:44] my goals have created something that's way beyond and way more important than me. So I would say as

[00:17:50] long as you can point to something in your life that is more meaningful than just the experience

[00:17:56] you're having, I don't think that'll ever be a bad thing. What I would say is I think fulfillment

[00:18:03] is a requirement for quote unquote success because here's the thing. You can have all the external

[00:18:09] results in the world but if you don't have internal fulfillment, internal self trust, internal

[00:18:14] appreciation, then I think you're in trouble. There's a lot of people out there that have the

[00:18:21] internal game down pretty strong but they don't have external results yet but you can get the

[00:18:26] external results. I don't know what's harder getting internal peace and internal alignment or

[00:18:32] getting external results. So oh, I would argue that external results are not nearly as important

[00:18:39] as the internal peace because you can have internal happiness and joy and be able to really feel

[00:18:47] the results of that external reward. Let's just say money for example, you know,

[00:18:52] it could be a nine figure net worth kind of guy. It is a big deal, right? Maybe you're billionaire.

[00:18:56] Who knows but if you're a billionaire and you're empty on the inside, narrowing amount of dollars

[00:19:03] or planes or jets or helicopters or toys or people, none of that will fulfill you. And so I

[00:19:12] think the internal has to come before the external. Yeah, it's just hard to measure that.

[00:19:18] It is really hard to... I mean, I don't know, I don't know if I've ever met somebody who woke up

[00:19:22] one day and said my goal is to be the most fulfilled version of myself. Well, I probably have.

[00:19:27] I've met a lot of people that are very, very aware of self-fifth. Well, it's a self-awareness,

[00:19:32] you know, without that self-awareness, I don't think that you could ever get there. You have to

[00:19:40] know who you are and what's in your heart and whether you actually feel satisfied. Yeah,

[00:19:44] you know, I mean, like, really, I'm the type of guy whether, you know, whether I'm making a lot of

[00:19:50] money that day, that year, that month, whatever or man, you know, it's a famine out there and, you know,

[00:19:57] I'm dying on a vine. I can still be very happy, you know, I still have that joy in my heart,

[00:20:04] that the gratitude for whatever it is in my life. I mean, yeah, you know what, life may suck right now,

[00:20:09] but that is air in my lungs. I am rewarded with air going in and out of my lungs, you know? And

[00:20:17] I don't think some people necessarily have that kind of gratitude or knowing where they're at

[00:20:24] spiritually getting right with their God or whatever it is. I think that does provide that internal

[00:20:29] balance or that internal peace where there's, you know, I do know some people and it is unfortunate who

[00:20:36] are wildly financially successful, they're successful in business, they're successful in lots of

[00:20:42] things, but yet man, they seem empty inside. And it's it, you know, you look at them and I think that

[00:20:50] they like to view themselves as, as, you know, a picture of success, a picture of greatness. But how

[00:20:56] greater are you when you actually appear completely empty? I think now more than ever self-improvement,

[00:21:03] it's crossed over into too many things. If you're learning about business, I don't really think

[00:21:08] that's self-improvement. I think that's business improvement. It's, it's different where a lot of people

[00:21:13] teaching self-improvement are very financially successful, but we don't know what their lives

[00:21:17] are like behind the scenes. We don't know what their relationships are like. We don't know what

[00:21:20] their relationships are like with themselves. So I 100% agree with all that. Yeah, there's a lot of

[00:21:25] darkness out there with some of these high net worth individuals and it's sad because you know,

[00:21:30] you want to actually, you want to wrap your arms around and say, hey, listen, you know, you can be

[00:21:35] happy and it doesn't always take money. You can have all the money. No one's going to take away from

[00:21:39] you. But what about what's in the heart? Yeah, cool. So I really like the way in which you

[00:21:51] present this. I really like the way in which you kind of drive for the heart before you look at

[00:21:56] other things. So if anyone was just listening or working with you, you've sort of addressed what is

[00:22:07] to be expected right out of the gate. How long does this generally take for people to kind of work

[00:22:15] through your process with them? And I realized that generally is a very interesting term because you

[00:22:21] may have people who are very receptive, but you also probably have people who fight you tooth and

[00:22:25] nail. So as an average, what does that look like? Our one of our group coaching. So our group coaching

[00:22:33] program is 90 days. And usually at the end of 90 days, everybody is pretty on track with tracking

[00:22:41] anywhere from six to 12 habits. At that point, they've learned a bunch. At that point,

[00:22:47] they have a pretty positive community. So I would say, yeah, three months if you can do things

[00:22:52] consistently for three months, you build a lot of self trust and you'll start to see some level

[00:22:57] of results, even if it's just the confidence to feel like you're on track with doing what you're doing.

[00:23:03] I would say three months is a reasonable amount of time to expect some level of results, whether

[00:23:08] probably mostly internal more internal results than external 90 days. So I'm going to ask

[00:23:14] a very tough question. Not everyone has the benefit of being in relationships with people of

[00:23:23] their lives, be it spouses, lovers, supports family, whatever. These sometimes and often too often,

[00:23:32] I think, I guess, people are with those who suck the air out of the room, not as supportive.

[00:23:38] It'd be toxic, maybe not toxic, but just not highly supportive. What do you say to people who are

[00:23:45] in these marriages? They love their spouse. They love their brother. They love their sister.

[00:23:49] They love their mother. They can't replace their mother. They don't want to divorce their mother,

[00:23:53] right? Or their father. How do you get them to still climb out when the support system isn't there?

[00:24:02] That is the billion dollar question. It's hard to talk about stuff like that because often time,

[00:24:08] it seems cold, but I had a conversation with a client one time whose family is toxic.

[00:24:14] They have a toxic family, 1,000%. I said, look, there's many options, but I don't know if anybody's

[00:24:21] really going to give it to you this straight. Most likely your family is going to die before you do.

[00:24:28] Then you'll have the opportunity after that to go all in on the person that you want to become.

[00:24:33] But what are we going to wait another 20, 30 years to be the most aligned, fulfilled version of

[00:24:37] yourself? If you have the privilege and the opportunity to limit the amount of time you're spending

[00:24:45] with these people, that's where I would start. Again, way easier said than done. It's the question

[00:24:53] of it's going to be painful right now, but it is probably what's best for me long term.

[00:25:00] But to your point, Thomas, I would probably say, all right, I feel like right now I am stuck in a

[00:25:07] lot of situations and a lot of energies that don't want to be in. I would seek out positive people

[00:25:12] before you start reallocating time with negative people because you're going to need the

[00:25:17] positive people to lean on when the negative people lash out. That would be true. That would be the

[00:25:22] first step is reach out to positive people before you do anything because you're going to want to

[00:25:26] lean on them anyway. So what is your advice for finding positive people?

[00:25:29] I think you find such creatures. If you were looking for Taylor Swift fans, you'd go to a

[00:25:33] Taylor Swift concert. You'd join a Taylor Swift Facebook group. You'd go to an autograph sign,

[00:25:37] whatever it is. I think it's the same with positive people. There's so many Facebook groups.

[00:25:43] There are so many book clubs. There's so many blogs, so many podcasts, so many websites.

[00:25:49] Make it a mission to seek out 15 different places that has content and leadership that you

[00:25:55] resonate with. And then just start sending messages to people in there, building relationships.

[00:26:01] Facebook groups are really a really good place to go. We're all seeking community at the end of

[00:26:06] the day. Sometimes unfortunately, you're going to have to be the one who puts in the effort to

[00:26:11] build your community. So that's what I would say. Facebook groups, events, meetups,

[00:26:17] there's a ton of different event apps now that are for self-improvement or whatever it may be.

[00:26:22] Get outside of your comfort zone, get outside of the normal sea that you usually do and I'm sure

[00:26:27] you'll meet some people. You know, I agree with you there, especially on the business events.

[00:26:33] So if people are going to a business event like a self-help kind of business event or just a

[00:26:38] simple self-help event, you're going to be around a lot of people who have a lot of positive energy

[00:26:43] because that's what they're going there for. They've already got some and they're going for even more

[00:26:48] and that's kind of a big deal. We are unfortunately short on time, so I do need to cut it here but

[00:26:58] what would be like the last bit of advice wisdom that you would offer people who are listening

[00:27:04] and how can they find? The last piece of advice wisdom is just one of my favorite quotes.

[00:27:11] The biggest difference between the person you are today and the person you want to be

[00:27:15] eventually is your habits. So if you can practice small things, a lot of the habits we talked about

[00:27:21] today are pretty small and they probably seem pretty insignificant but if you stack them over

[00:27:26] along enough period of time, a lot of things can happen and I'm an example of that for sure as

[00:27:31] many many of the people who are quote unquote successful are and then the best place is either

[00:27:36] the podcast, next level university. We do an episode every day so we can get a little bit better

[00:27:41] every day and Instagram my handle is at NeverQuitKid. I never quit kid and next level university.

[00:27:48] I encourage everyone to check those out. God, to podcast every day. I give you a lot of credit.

[00:27:54] Thank you. That is that is tough to do so I give you a lot of credit on that one. Anyone who's never

[00:27:58] done a podcast before that's a heck of the cadence right there so good for you. Well listen again,

[00:28:03] it's been an absolute pleasure having you on the program. I really enjoy this and you know,

[00:28:08] maybe like to hook up with you again at some point. I mean, that was very good. Thank you so much for

[00:28:12] coming. Thank you.