From Soda Addiction to Healthy Living: How To Transform Your Diet & Life with Steff Shorr

[00:00:00] Entertainment. Insights. Don't take life too seriously. Welcome to Brainsky Unleashed.

[00:00:09] We just got to celebrate Thanksgiving and upcoming we have Christmas and we have New Years.

[00:00:15] Thanksgiving, if you're like me, you gobble down tons of turkey and stuffing and casseroles and desserts and coming towards Christmas,

[00:00:25] well I'm sure most of you will be eating ham, sweets and candies and pies for myself.

[00:00:30] I go with the kosher shrimp with lobster sauce and pork fried rice.

[00:00:35] When we're not celebrating those holidays, and don't forget New Years, we eat on New Years and drink too.

[00:00:42] But when we're not doing that, we're also going to and from work and we have our Christmas parties, holiday parties.

[00:00:48] We have sweets that are constantly being brought in by people. Maybe clients are sending you fantastic treats.

[00:00:54] Ours do sometimes.

[00:00:56] And then of course there is the Wendy's 4 for 4.

[00:01:00] See, Wendy's you pass every day and there's your lunch and that's the greatest deal that was ever conceived by any corporation or fast food chain.

[00:01:08] And with the Wendy's 4 for 4, naturally if you're like me, you're going to get the diet soda because you are going to control that weight with that aspartame

[00:01:15] because aspartame is fantastic, right?

[00:01:18] And then you have to get in and out of your car and magically you notice somehow your car seat is starting to conform to your fat ass.

[00:01:28] Well, what a great time of year to bring on a very special guest.

[00:01:33] Someone who really eats clean.

[00:01:35] Someone who is physically fit.

[00:01:38] Physiologically fit.

[00:01:40] Low stress.

[00:01:42] Overall, great person.

[00:01:44] Great sense of humor.

[00:01:45] Someone who could remind us of the things that we probably should be doing during this season

[00:01:48] versus many of the things that we probably shouldn't be doing but it's normal for us so we do it anyway.

[00:01:54] Welcome to the show, Stephanie Shore.

[00:01:59] Stephanie, welcome to the show.

[00:02:00] I am so happy to see you, happy to talk to you.

[00:02:04] There's so much that we have to go over given the time of year and I'm just so thrilled because you're one of my favorite people,

[00:02:10] one of the nicest people I know.

[00:02:12] Welcome.

[00:02:13] Well, thank you so much, Tom.

[00:02:15] It's an honor to be on your podcast.

[00:02:17] I'm very pleased you invited me to talk about health and wellness.

[00:02:20] Yes, yes.

[00:02:21] So in my intro, I talked about how we are in this period in the year between Thanksgiving and Christmas and how I'm not,

[00:02:30] I'm not sure but I believe it's not just my fat ass, but there's probably thousands and thousands of other fat asses that are getting fatter during the season.

[00:02:40] I was watching some of your YouTube videos over the weekend.

[00:02:44] And I love the fact that you literally just you are unfiltered and it's fantastic.

[00:02:49] One thing that caught my eye was sauteing without oil.

[00:02:54] How do you saute without oil and why?

[00:02:57] And let's kind of go into how can we eat healthier in this season?

[00:03:02] So one of the big problems I think that this entire country has is that so many things are cooked in oil.

[00:03:07] And I had a health scare last year and I had to live without any oil, any fat, any animal products for a while.

[00:03:14] And believe me, I felt like an alien to try to go out to eat and have something without oil.

[00:03:18] And a lot of times the quality of the oil isn't that great.

[00:03:21] They're not doing excuse me, extra virgin olive oil organic usually in preparing your food.

[00:03:26] A lot of times it's vegetable oil.

[00:03:28] And a lot of these oils are very highly processed and they're refined with a lot of chemicals.

[00:03:34] And it's just not your friend to your body.

[00:03:36] What it does in your veins and arteries.

[00:03:38] You mean, I mean, I kind of thought, well, yeah, oil will make it slippery.

[00:03:41] Does the opposite.

[00:03:42] It makes it sticky.

[00:03:44] And I think that's really a big contributor to a lot of the heart disease that we have in this country is the amount of oil in our diet.

[00:03:51] So as part of what I did with my no fat, no oil, no animal products.

[00:03:55] And I'm at first I didn't know what to eat.

[00:03:57] I mean, not even nuts or avocados.

[00:04:00] And the point of that was to get my heart, my heart lipid panel as perfect as possible.

[00:04:06] It did that.

[00:04:07] And I'm not recommending it to anybody unless, you know, they have some kind of serious heart issue and their doctor agrees to try to do that because we'll talk about that for a second.

[00:04:17] Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn has a book prevent reverse heart disease, and he guarantees you will not have a heart attack if you can get your cholesterol below 155 and your LDL is below 80.

[00:04:28] And he hit the way he started his program was back in the 80s.

[00:04:32] And I was always amazed it wasn't given more or more people to know about it, but he was.

[00:04:37] He started with 23 people at Cleveland Clinic and he took them home.

[00:04:41] These people had been sent home to die.

[00:04:42] They had had all kinds of procedures and surgeries and everyone they did.

[00:04:46] There wasn't any more they could do.

[00:04:47] And he put them on this no fat, no oil, no animal product diet.

[00:04:51] And the ones who complied with it, it's not easy.

[00:04:54] They did okay.

[00:04:55] I mean, they lived.

[00:04:56] Is it flavor though?

[00:04:57] I mean, that doesn't sound like a very fun diet.

[00:05:00] Well, I mean, and I'm not recommending it again.

[00:05:03] This is something you definitely talk about with a doctor.

[00:05:05] But after I got over the initial shock of being an alien, that's what it felt like, you know, and you go in the restaurant and my daughter just come home.

[00:05:15] You know, it was kind of in the middle of COVID.

[00:05:17] She just come home with two of her friends and they were living with me.

[00:05:19] And all of a sudden I can't I have to be the one at the table like that movie, you know, where she went on the side.

[00:05:26] That was me.

[00:05:27] That was telling me, but I acclimated because.

[00:05:31] You know, I had had a diagnosis I didn't think was true and I wanted to make sure I was putting myself in as great a position as possible when I went to have the test retaken.

[00:05:40] And I was fine.

[00:05:41] I knew I wasn't sick.

[00:05:42] But to get to that point.

[00:05:45] I developed recipes and actually called well, so since wife and daughter have cookbooks, his son's a fireman who's done a lot with diet for firemen who eat a lot, you know, they're in their firehouse for 24 hours at a time.

[00:05:57] He even has a line.

[00:05:59] I'm sorry, I don't remember the name of it.

[00:06:01] It's called something like red engine or something.

[00:06:04] And he has some foods that have now he's a little more lenient, like he has avocados in his cooking.

[00:06:10] So it's so OK, so that after I went through that, my my lipid panel was magnificent.

[00:06:16] I couldn't really sustain it because I'm an O blood type of blood types are more like cave people.

[00:06:22] And I started eating meat again.

[00:06:25] And that was, you know, so now what the way I think the healthiest way to eat is and we'll get back to the oil in a minute is.

[00:06:31] I mean, we're basically not more much more highly evolved than when we were as cave people.

[00:06:36] We think we are.

[00:06:37] Our brains certainly seem to be.

[00:06:38] But the foods that we're eating, our bodies can't handle.

[00:06:41] And that oil is one of them.

[00:06:42] So my wife and I at one point did the keto diet.

[00:06:48] And I mean, we've tried many different things.

[00:06:51] I have to say, at least on keto, and some people will tell you or have told me it's the worst thing that any human could ever do to themselves.

[00:06:59] I eat at Wendy's.

[00:07:01] So really, the keto diet sounds pretty great.

[00:07:04] But I felt so amazing.

[00:07:06] Like, I've never actually experienced anything like it before where my body just felt so good.

[00:07:12] I didn't have any bloating.

[00:07:13] I didn't have any indigestion.

[00:07:16] My acid reflux went way down to where I didn't even need to take omeprazole.

[00:07:22] I had energy, just unbelievable energy.

[00:07:25] And it sounds like your diet.

[00:07:27] I mean, are you straight keto at this point?

[00:07:30] I mean, because there's different types.

[00:07:32] I call myself, I'm an opportunitarian.

[00:07:36] I mean, we live in the land of plenty.

[00:07:39] You're constantly confronted with opportunities to have really delicious food.

[00:07:42] At least, it seems like, you know, it seems kind of like a normal situation if you're fortunate enough to have, you know, funds to buy food and things like that.

[00:07:51] But I don't really, I don't deprive myself.

[00:07:55] But at the same time, like, for example, the other night I made sea bass for dinner and I had it on steamed kale.

[00:08:00] Perfect dinner.

[00:08:01] A lot of starchy carbs don't really work for me, even though, you know, there is value in carbs.

[00:08:07] But I think part of the problem with a lot of people with bloating and things is too much carb.

[00:08:12] So if I can have a meal with just vegetables and a protein, I feel like that's like a keto kind of meal.

[00:08:18] But I'm not like religiously all day keto.

[00:08:21] At any rate, my daughter made chocolate chip cookies that night.

[00:08:24] And that was really hard for me to resist.

[00:08:27] But you know what?

[00:08:27] It's so interesting because I really felt like I wasn't addicted to sugar anymore.

[00:08:31] But I had one of those and I wanted another one.

[00:08:33] You don't get full from that.

[00:08:34] And that's where the damage is.

[00:08:36] Yeah, you don't.

[00:08:37] Do not kick in.

[00:08:38] I think it's the cave person thing.

[00:08:40] It's like getting ready for famine.

[00:08:42] And we're not going to have a famine anytime soon in this country.

[00:08:46] But our hormones have not caught up with our highly developed processed foods and things like that.

[00:08:51] So, yeah, take it from somebody who can't stop eating Pop Tarts.

[00:08:55] You know, once I start, it's just it's this endless package.

[00:08:58] It's the most amazing thing.

[00:08:59] So addictive.

[00:09:00] Bad for you.

[00:09:01] We all agree, but they're so good.

[00:09:03] People say that with like a sleeve of Oreos.

[00:09:05] You can't eat just one.

[00:09:06] Yeah, duh.

[00:09:08] So I kind of keep those foods out of my house.

[00:09:10] But I do have things like pistachio nuts.

[00:09:12] So I think I'll just have one session that I want something a little salty and it's a healthy.

[00:09:15] It's a nut.

[00:09:17] But then all of a sudden there's a whole pile of pistachio shells, you know, in front of me.

[00:09:21] I don't even realize what happened.

[00:09:23] So what what should we do?

[00:09:24] How like what advice?

[00:09:26] Because you you basically took yourself from I quasi normal American diet to you've got to be kidding me restrictive diet to now it sounds like you're you found this happy place.

[00:09:39] How do we generally get to a happy place like as a general population that's addicted to say, you know, pop tarts.

[00:09:48] So number one, anywhere you have sugar like pop tarts, you need to get that out of the house.

[00:09:53] There's no reason to have in your pantry.

[00:09:55] I mean, I will do it.

[00:09:56] We could do a zoom call and I'll go through your pantry.

[00:09:59] God, that's I'm going to be embarrassed.

[00:10:01] Well, no, but I'm serious.

[00:10:04] Not about that so much.

[00:10:05] But I mean, for example, if you have any vegetable seed oil, let's toss them.

[00:10:08] They're not your friend playing vegetable oil.

[00:10:11] I think what I'm doing now, and this is based on my research and all that we have some great thought leaders out there.

[00:10:17] I mean, their podcasts are amazing.

[00:10:19] Dr. Pradeep Jumnatas is an Orlando cardiologist and his his YouTube videos on fasting.

[00:10:25] That's what really it really brought to my attention that we're really more like cave people, because when he talks about fasting, I don't know if you've ever fasted.

[00:10:33] And I'm not saying, you know, anyone should.

[00:10:36] I mean, that's definitely another doctor thing, but I did try it.

[00:10:40] And one of the reasons I tried it, and I think this is kind of interesting.

[00:10:45] The first 12 hours, you're burning up your glycogen when you're fasting.

[00:10:48] Everyone knows that the glycogen stored in your muscles.

[00:10:50] The second 12 hours, you're burning up recycled protein that your body's making all the time.

[00:10:57] And after that, now we're at 24 hours for most people.

[00:10:59] Some people start a little earlier, but a lot of people at 24 hours, they start producing stem cells.

[00:11:05] Their body produces their stem cells and growth hormone.

[00:11:09] And then you go into autophagy.

[00:11:13] And then your cells start cleaning themselves out.

[00:11:15] Now, the keto diet is kind of like that a little bit, but this is really very much more along those lines.

[00:11:21] And then I made it to 60 hours and then it was like too much for me and I stopped.

[00:11:25] But the day after that, I ate light.

[00:11:27] And the day after that, I had more energy than I can ever remember having in my life.

[00:11:31] And I think it was because one of the problems I think with our diet is that we eat.

[00:11:35] That's here's a here's another thing to think about the frequency of our meals.

[00:11:39] We eat three meals a day and snacks.

[00:11:41] Yeah.

[00:11:41] And then we eat late at night.

[00:11:43] I can tell you one thing.

[00:11:44] If you stop eating three hours before you to go to bed, that'll help your way right there.

[00:11:48] If you can like eat nothing else, maybe drink a little bit of water.

[00:11:51] And that's another thing.

[00:11:52] How much water are you drinking enough water?

[00:11:54] You are really stealing all the joy out of my life right now.

[00:11:59] But I know I have to make a change.

[00:12:01] Well, let's talk about that.

[00:12:02] So say you could do something.

[00:12:03] You have a joyful moment like someone invites you over and they get to make the best dessert

[00:12:07] that your favorite thing in life.

[00:12:08] Oh, but I have a joyful hour.

[00:12:10] So maybe if you eat that and it's the holidays and you rationalize.

[00:12:15] I mean, I'm I'm very good at rationalization myself being an opportunitarian.

[00:12:19] You know, I don't like to miss.

[00:12:22] But I would say the next day, maybe don't maybe skip breakfast.

[00:12:26] Okay, let your body fully digest.

[00:12:28] Maybe even, you know, start eating later that day.

[00:12:31] Give your body time to really fully digest and make sure you're exercising, especially if you ate too much, you know, or you ate something you shouldn't then make sure you'd like maybe if you just walk every day, maybe a couple times during your walk, walk as fast as you can get the heart rate up.

[00:12:45] Mm hmm. Okay.

[00:12:47] So it's it's a matter of you may be indulging yourself.

[00:12:51] But after you've indulged yourself like a champion, then you might want to underdo it and add some exercise.

[00:12:59] Well, be a little bit accountable.

[00:13:01] It's your body.

[00:13:02] If you don't take care of it, where are you going to live?

[00:13:03] You don't want to be sick when you're older.

[00:13:05] You know, a lot of people are sick in the last couple of decades of their lives and their own procedures and they're, you know, they're taking all kinds of medications and they're in pain.

[00:13:12] And I think it's the choices we make when we're younger for most people and not everybody, obviously, like sometimes, you know, they say the genes are 20% of your health and 80% of your choices.

[00:13:25] So I really think if you have a propensity to heart disease, everyone in your family had it and you're eating a diet and your, your lipids, your lipid levels aren't good.

[00:13:34] Yeah, full of oils.

[00:13:35] Yeah.

[00:13:36] You know, well, I mean, your panel, your blood work.

[00:13:39] So talking about oils, I, the ones that I record that I, that I think are okay are olive oil, but not heated.

[00:13:47] And if you have to heat anything, I'm saying heat, use ghee or butter or avocado oil and maybe grains.

[00:13:56] We do have, we have ghee and avocado oil.

[00:13:57] So, so if I was to make a chili, you're, you're recommending not using extra virgin olive oil.

[00:14:04] You're saying avocado oil or ghee.

[00:14:08] So let's talk about that.

[00:14:09] When I, when I was on my no fat, no oil, no animal products way of life, and I was making chili, I thought, well, how can I saute an onion without oil?

[00:14:17] It just didn't seem to make any sense.

[00:14:19] So what I did, I use vegetable stock, organic vegetable stocks, cheap from whole foods.

[00:14:24] It's a couple bucks.

[00:14:25] And that's what I used.

[00:14:27] And I just, and I thought this was a wrong assumption.

[00:14:30] I thought, well, I'm cooking it in vegetable stock.

[00:14:32] It's not going to like stick or burn or anything.

[00:14:35] The oil would do that faster.

[00:14:37] That was wrong.

[00:14:38] You have to really keep an eye on it.

[00:14:39] It soaks the vegetable stock right away and you have to keep adding it.

[00:14:43] And you just keep, and then you leave it, let it get soft.

[00:14:46] Soft.

[00:14:46] You never miss it in the chili.

[00:14:48] That's really the only oil I put my chili.

[00:14:51] Do you use oil anywhere else in it for the onions?

[00:14:53] No, no.

[00:14:54] I mean, you know, well, if I'm making a chili, usually it's like, it's a meat chili.

[00:14:58] I actually have a great keto recipe.

[00:15:02] And I would normally use the oil for the onions and the garlic and just kind of, you know,

[00:15:06] brown those a little bit.

[00:15:07] And then I wouldn't add any more additional oil.

[00:15:10] So the onions I let soften.

[00:15:13] I let the onions soften and, you know, in the vegetable stock.

[00:15:16] And at the very end of that, I'll add the garlic because it's going to cook for a couple

[00:15:21] hours.

[00:15:21] You don't really need to saute the garlic.

[00:15:23] It's going to be fine.

[00:15:24] That's true.

[00:15:25] Yeah.

[00:15:25] And then the meat, you usually take the onions out and you cook the meat separate, right?

[00:15:29] You brown it.

[00:15:30] Yeah.

[00:15:30] Yeah.

[00:15:30] Yeah.

[00:15:30] Yeah.

[00:15:31] So what do you, what kind of meat do you use?

[00:15:33] Do you use grass fed?

[00:15:34] I would recommend that.

[00:15:37] Even though I may love Pop-Tarts, my wife and I do get farm fresh, grass fed, all natural,

[00:15:46] you know, regular cow, not industrial cow type beef, you know.

[00:15:53] The best you can find.

[00:15:55] I mean, I will complain that the industrial cows actually do taste a little better in my

[00:15:59] opinion.

[00:16:00] But I know that the natural cows are much better for you.

[00:16:04] Right.

[00:16:05] And I think the bison, like Holfoos has a bison.

[00:16:08] I've never, I've never actually gotten that.

[00:16:11] Believe it or not, we actually get ours from a farm, a local farm.

[00:16:13] It is literally just that close.

[00:16:16] And we get our vegetables, our meats, our milk.

[00:16:20] Our kids love raw milk.

[00:16:21] I don't know what your opinion is on raw milk.

[00:16:23] I know some people think it's the worst thing in the world, but I mean, they love it.

[00:16:27] I hate milk.

[00:16:28] I've always hated milk, but even I can stand raw milk because it actually doesn't taste

[00:16:31] too bad.

[00:16:33] So let's talk about milk for a minute.

[00:16:34] That's kind of important.

[00:16:35] So I think adults shouldn't have any kind of dairy.

[00:16:40] None.

[00:16:41] Because it's for children.

[00:16:43] What do you put in your frosted flakes?

[00:16:47] No, I don't have frosted flakes.

[00:16:49] I mean, I'm hardly even eating oatmeal anymore because of the lectins.

[00:16:53] So basically I've been recommended to eat buckwheat.

[00:16:57] So I'm still trying to deal with that.

[00:16:58] Basically I try to do not gluten-free oats.

[00:17:03] Okay.

[00:17:04] I'm doing that, but no protein.

[00:17:05] I see no processed cereal at all.

[00:17:08] Ever.

[00:17:09] I don't buy it.

[00:17:10] It's not my house.

[00:17:11] Lucky charms?

[00:17:13] Never.

[00:17:14] No.

[00:17:14] I'm sorry.

[00:17:15] Oh my God.

[00:17:15] Your pantry doesn't want to see me.

[00:17:19] But talking about the milk.

[00:17:20] So let me tell you what.

[00:17:21] I work with a brilliant hematologist in California.

[00:17:24] And he said, well, I told him I was having this great breakfast.

[00:17:28] It was goat's milk yogurt with walnuts and honey.

[00:17:32] Delicious.

[00:17:34] He goes, drop the yogurt.

[00:17:35] I said, what do you mean?

[00:17:36] It's fermented.

[00:17:37] You know why I drop it?

[00:17:38] He says, because dairy has a lot of hormones and you're not going to like what they do to

[00:17:42] you.

[00:17:43] I'm like, okay.

[00:17:46] I never thought about that.

[00:17:48] I don't drink a lot of milk or have too much dairy anyway, but I just never thought about

[00:17:54] the hormone aspect.

[00:17:55] Right.

[00:17:56] Exactly.

[00:17:56] And I mean, the milk is made to grow children, baby calves.

[00:18:02] And maybe we can translate that.

[00:18:03] I mean, what I liked about goat's milk better than cow's milk was I had read.

[00:18:08] And again, I'm not staking my life on this, but I read that the cell size of the goat's

[00:18:14] milk was more similar to humans than the cow.

[00:18:17] And it just seems to be absorbed better.

[00:18:18] But you know, everyone's different with that.

[00:18:21] You know, I had an ice cream addiction when I was in high school and that was my major food

[00:18:25] group.

[00:18:26] So that's another addiction.

[00:18:28] It's the sugar, the ice cream, the sugar and fat or the salt and fat.

[00:18:32] The whole country's addicted.

[00:18:34] And look at our country.

[00:18:36] God, look at me.

[00:18:37] I represent the country.

[00:18:38] Well, I'm everybody.

[00:18:40] Not really.

[00:18:40] I mean, not really.

[00:18:42] I just saw recently a picture of people waiting in line for Star Wars movie in the seventies

[00:18:47] and not one person was there.

[00:18:48] I saw that.

[00:18:50] And they were all standing.

[00:18:51] Right.

[00:18:52] And they were all standing in line, lean, all lean.

[00:18:54] And the next one, they're all overweight sitting in these floating chairs.

[00:18:58] It's hilarious.

[00:18:59] Have you seen the movie Wally with your children?

[00:19:02] You know, I have fascinating movie.

[00:19:04] It really has like the kids see it one way as an adult.

[00:19:09] It's a very different movie and it's disturbing.

[00:19:12] It's a very disturbing movie.

[00:19:14] I saw it with my grandson and I found it the same.

[00:19:17] I thought this is where we're headed.

[00:19:19] These people, big fat people in these recliners.

[00:19:22] I'm that guy.

[00:19:23] No, you're not.

[00:19:25] Listen, I'm on the road to taking up two seats in an airplane.

[00:19:28] I'm working on it.

[00:19:28] One of these days I'll get there.

[00:19:29] I'm just kidding.

[00:19:31] So the thing that, I mean, at my point in life at 71, I look, I mean, there's a lot of things I think our species could have moved ahead a lot more on that.

[00:19:41] I'm a little disappointed in.

[00:19:42] I'm not going to go into that here.

[00:19:43] But one of the main ones is the physical shape that we're in without, with no exercise, so sedentary.

[00:19:51] And part of it is, I mean, the internet's magnificent.

[00:19:55] I love it.

[00:19:56] I love being able to get information on any subject I want.

[00:20:00] Anything, immediately, and all sides of it.

[00:20:02] And you have to be careful.

[00:20:03] You have to wend your way.

[00:20:04] But if you follow the science, you know, most of the thought leaders I follow, like ones at Stanford, Andrew Huberman, who has amazing podcasts about the brain.

[00:20:13] And then David Sinclair at Harvard is doing anti-aging research that's crazy great.

[00:20:20] So these things are all available to us.

[00:20:23] And then there's Pradeep Jomnatis in Orlando about fasting and heart.

[00:20:27] But what you're suggesting is that we take the time to learn.

[00:20:35] And I don't.

[00:20:36] Yes.

[00:20:37] Yeah, the internet is great.

[00:20:39] And I agree with you.

[00:20:40] But most of us spend time on the internet checking our Facebook status or watching what's going through the news on Twitter instead of taking the extra time that we have.

[00:20:50] Because technically, that should be extra time that we have when we potch you around on the internet.

[00:20:55] But instead, we don't educate ourselves.

[00:20:57] We just kind of play on the internet.

[00:20:59] I'm guilty of it.

[00:21:00] I mean, I'll be the first to admit I'm totally guilty of it.

[00:21:02] But what you're suggesting is that people actually manage your time.

[00:21:06] That's a lot.

[00:21:07] That's almost a tall ask.

[00:21:09] Well, except that there are shorts.

[00:21:11] All these people have like little short versions.

[00:21:13] You don't have to listen to the whole hour, two hours, whatever.

[00:21:15] A lot of them have little kind of short videos on YouTube.

[00:21:18] But I mean, to me, I guess it's fascinating to me that I can have a part in my future of my health and not be dependent on, you know, what happens to me because I've eaten whatever I want.

[00:21:29] I don't exercise.

[00:21:30] It's like we kind of don't pay attention.

[00:21:33] I think we don't.

[00:21:33] It's just we're not really taught to look at our bodies as something we really need to invest the time in to take care of if we want to have good health.

[00:21:41] And we want that health to be around when we're older, like when you're really young.

[00:21:45] I mean, nature is trying to keep you alive to reproduce.

[00:21:48] That's like the biological imperative.

[00:21:50] Yeah.

[00:21:50] And I mean, I think what I ate in my 20s.

[00:21:53] I'm amazed.

[00:21:53] I'm still alive.

[00:21:54] I mean, pizza and chocolate chip cookies, Friday nights.

[00:21:58] Sounds great, doesn't it?

[00:22:00] You know, it's really amazing because when you when you don't eat that a lot, it doesn't sound so amazing anymore.

[00:22:05] I know it's hard to imagine.

[00:22:07] It is hard.

[00:22:08] It's hard to imagine.

[00:22:09] Trust me.

[00:22:10] It's hard to imagine.

[00:22:12] So so that means, you know, it's it's a strong sugar addiction and a fat.

[00:22:17] But the fats.

[00:22:18] I mean, you need fat.

[00:22:18] I'm not saying going low fat at all.

[00:22:20] I think that was a huge problem for our country.

[00:22:22] And everyone started eating a lot more sugar and leaving out the fat.

[00:22:25] Well, you need fat.

[00:22:27] And you need I mean, you need everything in proper amounts.

[00:22:30] You know, I'm not saying anything.

[00:22:32] I'm saying eat balanced.

[00:22:34] Try to eliminate processed, sugary foods and no, no sugary drinks ever.

[00:22:38] No juice.

[00:22:39] Juice is not.

[00:22:40] No.

[00:22:41] And diet sodas, I guess, are out because aspartame is somehow bad for you.

[00:22:45] You know what?

[00:22:46] I think it's horrible for you.

[00:22:47] I what I've read on that.

[00:22:49] I love you, Diet Coke.

[00:22:50] I miss you.

[00:22:51] Well, that's a really strong addiction.

[00:22:53] My second husband is very addicted to Diet Cokes.

[00:22:56] He drank about 10 a day and he's not with us anymore.

[00:22:58] So I'm not.

[00:23:11] But there's also monk fruit.

[00:23:14] If you want to play around with that monk fruit, the powder, that's just kind of.

[00:23:18] It's not.

[00:23:20] Yeah, it's a sweetener.

[00:23:22] And I use honey once in a while and I use maple syrup a little bit, you know, but I'm.

[00:23:26] I don't use a lot.

[00:23:29] And.

[00:23:30] Yeah, it's it's just more.

[00:23:33] The addiction, the processed food addiction.

[00:23:36] So I would start if I was going to eliminate one thing.

[00:23:39] I would eliminate deli meats.

[00:23:45] Killing me.

[00:23:47] Deli meats usually have nitrates.

[00:23:49] They're not a friend to your stomach and the artificial sweeteners I read and I'm going

[00:23:54] to find the book where I read it and because I'm not coming up with the name of it or the

[00:23:58] writer and he's brilliant scientist.

[00:24:01] He said the diet.

[00:24:03] The ingredients in diet soda, the fake sugar makes your brain cells.

[00:24:08] Diet soda.

[00:24:09] Like I popped.

[00:24:10] Oh, death.

[00:24:11] Oh, oh, yeah.

[00:24:13] No, I got to I got to stop that.

[00:24:16] My wife got us.

[00:24:17] My wife basically did get us off of diet.

[00:24:19] So although I still.

[00:24:22] Love diet Coke.

[00:24:24] Tell me if it tastes good to you.

[00:24:25] I could never get over the taste of it.

[00:24:27] There's there's diet Coke and there's diet Pepsi.

[00:24:29] Now, being as though I'm fat, I decided if I drank diet sodas, I must therefore get thin,

[00:24:34] which is a complete and total lie.

[00:24:35] But that's fine.

[00:24:36] The opposite.

[00:24:37] I will say diet Pepsi is actually preferred, but it's not as readily.

[00:24:42] It's not as readily available, depending on where you're at.

[00:24:46] I fly a lot.

[00:24:46] Most airlines have Coke products.

[00:24:48] So, you know, if you're up in the air, I go for the Coke product, you know, God forbid

[00:24:52] you drink water.

[00:24:53] Right.

[00:24:54] But yeah, that's it.

[00:24:56] That's a tough one.

[00:24:57] But my wife actually started getting these stevia sodas to try and get us off of the aspartame.

[00:25:04] That's a good way to do it.

[00:25:06] I find that stevia tends to.

[00:25:10] Well, it's like coffee for most people.

[00:25:12] It gets you going.

[00:25:14] So that was one reaction I didn't expect because I wouldn't normally get that reaction.

[00:25:18] Yeah.

[00:25:18] I wouldn't get that reaction so much from diet sodas.

[00:25:21] You thought it was stimulating?

[00:25:22] Oh, yeah.

[00:25:23] It's I have 100% evidence after testing.

[00:25:28] Yes.

[00:25:28] That does work very well.

[00:25:30] And what is it?

[00:25:31] What kind of sodas?

[00:25:31] Is there any caffeine in the soda?

[00:25:33] There is caffeine.

[00:25:35] But I did some research on stevia and I guess it did sort of like a bit of a natural laxative,

[00:25:39] which I didn't expect.

[00:25:40] So here you are drinking this soda thinking, hey, I'm going to get myself a little caffeine

[00:25:44] because I hate coffee.

[00:25:45] And next thing I know, I'm heading to the can.

[00:25:48] You know, wow, this is like every day.

[00:25:51] Always after this can.

[00:25:52] Why is that?

[00:25:53] And I started to research and went, oh, well, that could be why.

[00:25:56] So I would say look at your amount of water you drink because it's really important to stay

[00:26:00] hydrated.

[00:26:00] And if you want to start losing weight, you know, make sure.

[00:26:04] Well, current thought is half an ounce for every pound of body weight.

[00:26:08] Half an ounce for a pound.

[00:26:09] Okay.

[00:26:09] And that's, you know, and if you're active, maybe more.

[00:26:13] So.

[00:26:15] So, okay.

[00:26:16] So I'm like 115.

[00:26:17] So I about 60 ounces.

[00:26:19] Show off.

[00:26:22] I'm only 5'4".

[00:26:24] Beautiful though.

[00:26:25] Absolutely beautiful.

[00:26:27] Right where you need to be.

[00:26:28] So I don't really consider you fat.

[00:26:30] Why do you have a self-image of yourself?

[00:26:32] Oh, God.

[00:26:32] I mean, first of all, it's a lot of humor.

[00:26:35] I am overweight by, you know, all scale standards, but I'm not, I wouldn't say

[00:26:39] I'm like morbidly obese.

[00:26:42] Oh, not at all.

[00:26:42] If you compare me to say your average European male at 45 years old, I look like a truck.

[00:26:50] But the average American girl, I'm bringing sexy back.

[00:26:53] I look so good.

[00:26:55] Exactly.

[00:26:56] That's a good way to look at it.

[00:26:58] Yeah.

[00:26:58] And, you know, actually the Europeans I've spoken to lately, one woman, she only eats

[00:27:03] one meal a day and I, she does not have an ounce of fat on her body and she swims.

[00:27:07] Now that's like not quite enough for me.

[00:27:10] I'm right now.

[00:27:11] I'll do, I'm doing intermittent fasting.

[00:27:13] Like my last meal will be seven 30.

[00:27:16] It'll be over, you know, and then I don't need to get, well, I have coffee in the morning

[00:27:21] with a little bit of coconut creamer in it.

[00:27:23] And I have a little bit of coconut yogurt and I'm using something that Davidson Claire

[00:27:28] recommends for anti-aging and for health.

[00:27:33] And it's NMN with resveratrol.

[00:27:36] And it's pretty controversial.

[00:27:37] There's, it's all kinds of stuff online about it, but I, I think it's a pretty good

[00:27:41] combination.

[00:27:42] I like supplements a lot, but again, that's something you do with a doctor.

[00:27:46] I work with, that's another thing.

[00:27:48] I think if you have a medical professional, that's part of your team, the team being you

[00:27:52] and the doctor and your family, and that's how you really stay and get healthy.

[00:27:56] I think some of that depends on the doctor though, because there are some doctors that

[00:28:01] are just, you know, all about prescribing the latest pill from a sales rep that stopped

[00:28:06] by nothing against sales reps, by the way.

[00:28:07] But then you have other doctors who kind of look at people from a more holistic viewpoint

[00:28:15] to try and help them for their whole body and not just simply what pills would solve

[00:28:19] this ailment or that ailment.

[00:28:21] So I agree.

[00:28:23] Well, I'm lucky.

[00:28:24] The doctor I, that I have is about finding the cause.

[00:28:28] Most doctors are trained to treat things with procedures and prescriptions.

[00:28:31] Right.

[00:28:32] That's what they learned.

[00:28:37] And it's really-

[00:28:38] Is that average?

[00:28:40] I don't know.

[00:28:41] Is that average?

[00:28:42] It's just one nutrition course for a doctor?

[00:28:43] That's what I've read.

[00:28:45] And I can't even say it for sure, because I've never been to medical school.

[00:28:48] I'm not sure what's going on with it now.

[00:28:50] If there's any MDs that are within the sound of my voice, would you mind contacting me,

[00:28:56] either posting a comment or looking me up?

[00:28:59] I would love to know what kind of actual nutritional training doctors get in medical school.

[00:29:05] It's a great question.

[00:29:06] And is it changing?

[00:29:08] Because it has to be.

[00:29:11] At any rate, my doctor is more about determining cause rather than treating symptoms.

[00:29:16] So that's where we go first.

[00:29:17] Like what's causing it?

[00:29:18] And I think then you're like part of a team and then you figure out what it is so you can

[00:29:23] remove what's happening if possible and do something else.

[00:29:27] Like, for example, I had mercury toxicity.

[00:29:31] I had a lot of feelings and I had the and I, you know, whatever it was determined.

[00:29:36] I had that in the way he determined that was I went in.

[00:29:40] I had a bad reaction to some seafood I'd eaten.

[00:29:42] And he said, well, I want to test your liver.

[00:29:44] So we sent this, I think it was urine, blood and saliva.

[00:29:48] And it was sent off to a company who sent back a 24 page report on the health of my liver.

[00:29:53] And we determined that the phase two of where it detoxifies wasn't working smoothly.

[00:29:58] So I started doing chelation.

[00:30:01] And I'm just saying.

[00:30:02] For those of us like myself, I've absolutely no idea what word you just used.

[00:30:06] What is chelation?

[00:30:08] So chelation, chelation is something at the time people are doing it a lot to get calcium out of their arteries.

[00:30:14] Okay.

[00:30:15] It's an intravenous treatment where you get a drip of a chemical.

[00:30:19] And I don't want to mess the letter.

[00:30:21] I think it's EMTA, but I'm not positive.

[00:30:23] And you sit and you have this drip for like an hour or so.

[00:30:27] And then you, you know, you do it for a period of time.

[00:30:30] Like maybe I did it for six months, every two weeks, something like that.

[00:30:34] And then you test again.

[00:30:35] And, you know, I also had my fillings removed.

[00:30:39] That's a good idea.

[00:30:40] There's a lot of bad fillings that are still out there.

[00:30:45] Modern fillings, at least in the last 20 to 30 years.

[00:30:48] Not that I would know anything about dental except the fact that I'm in a dental laboratory.

[00:30:52] But the materials have come a very long way.

[00:30:55] And there is a lot of really old amalgams that are out there that just are not great compared to what you can have.

[00:31:01] So if anyone does have any of these things, it's definitely go see your dentist.

[00:31:05] Dentists, you're welcome.

[00:31:07] And dental health is critical.

[00:31:10] It is.

[00:31:11] Not have good health, I believe.

[00:31:12] If your teeth are not in good shape, because all that, anything wrong in your mouth is seeping into your blood.

[00:31:19] It's not a good thing.

[00:31:21] And gums have to be healthy.

[00:31:23] I mean, I think to me, that's like if you have no other money for anything for your health, get your teeth.

[00:31:29] They're so important.

[00:31:30] Oh, don't get me started on things like root canals.

[00:31:32] Like I cannot stand the idea of a root canal because you basically what you're doing is you're just taking the pain out of a dead tooth and leaving the dead tooth.

[00:31:42] And I mean, anything dead in your body, it's not like it's going to maintain no cells or anything.

[00:31:47] It's, I don't know.

[00:31:49] I just, I never was one who would look at that and go, yeah, you know what?

[00:31:53] I'll get a root canal.

[00:31:54] I'd much rather have the tooth pulled and spend the extra coin on an implant.

[00:31:57] It's a much better restoration long-term, better for the body, but not a fan of root canals.

[00:32:04] So you're saying, and that's really interesting to me because I have, if I could take all the time I've been in the dental chair my whole life, it was probably three months.

[00:32:12] If I put it all together, when a dentist sees me, he was like, oh, I mean, I have beautiful teeth now.

[00:32:20] I had braces for years.

[00:32:22] It's one day I'm going to write the history of my, my dental history because it's, it's comprehensive.

[00:32:27] All right.

[00:32:28] So to all of my dentist friends, Stephanie Shore, she's the one you want to go for.

[00:32:32] She is the client.

[00:32:34] Well, now I'm, I'm actually pretty good.

[00:32:36] I have an amazing dentist now.

[00:32:37] Forget everything I just said, forget that, move on.

[00:32:41] Even to the point.

[00:32:42] Okay.

[00:32:43] I'll tell you just one aside, one adventure I had in the dental chair was, this was like in the sixties and I was a hippie then.

[00:32:50] So I went in with my long hair and my ragged jeans and I was barefoot and the hygienist, I swear she tried to drown me and she kept pouring water.

[00:33:01] Anyway, that's one, that was my most dramatic dental experience.

[00:33:04] I'm still stuck on the fact that you went to the dentist barefoot.

[00:33:06] God, that's disgusting.

[00:33:07] We went everywhere barefoot.

[00:33:08] That was hippies.

[00:33:10] I know it sounds gross now, but at the time.

[00:33:13] Okay.

[00:33:13] Please just tell me when you go to the bathroom in an airplane, you wear shoes.

[00:33:20] Well, you were at mega and you heard when JT called me up on stage, I got my boots on really fast.

[00:33:24] Of course I would wear rubber boots over my shoes if I had them.

[00:33:32] Girl, I have seen so many people go into those bathrooms in bare feet.

[00:33:36] I know, I know airplanes very well.

[00:33:37] Again, I have two, I have two very distinct careers, dental field and aviation.

[00:33:43] And I know what those, I know the filth that is in those bathrooms and the fact that people do that.

[00:33:49] Wow.

[00:33:50] It's just disgusting.

[00:33:51] And never, ever, ever drink coffee on an airplane.

[00:33:55] Why is that?

[00:33:56] Not that I would.

[00:33:57] You don't, I get to teach you something?

[00:33:59] Of course.

[00:34:00] Oh my gosh.

[00:34:01] So the tanks that are in the airplane, the water tanks do get disinfected on schedules.

[00:34:09] It's not that they never do, but there's a reason why when you go to the bathroom and there's a sign that says, do not drink the water out of the tap.

[00:34:19] Well, the same tanks are providing water to the coffee makers.

[00:34:23] The only difference is the water is being boiled.

[00:34:27] Oh, if the people could see your face right now.

[00:34:32] Well, that's another reason why I won't drink coffee on a plane.

[00:34:35] There you go.

[00:34:36] You're welcome.

[00:34:37] But it usually doesn't taste very good either.

[00:34:39] I mean, I haven't had in decades, but.

[00:34:42] Well, now, depending on the airline, they now advertise, you know, oh, we're using such and such a brand of coffee.

[00:34:47] Our coffee is great.

[00:34:48] And it's like, yeah, but look at the water you're using.

[00:34:49] It's nasty.

[00:34:51] No thanks.

[00:34:51] So let me suggest something to you that I've substituted for soda that you might try.

[00:34:57] I'm listening.

[00:34:58] Okay, so I take seltzer.

[00:35:02] Okay, I take a glass and I put cracked ice in it and I'll put maybe one to two ounces of pomegranate juice.

[00:35:07] Palm.

[00:35:08] You've seen those cute little bottles.

[00:35:10] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:35:10] So one ounce, maybe two to start since you're used to the sugar and all that.

[00:35:15] One ounce or two and then fill it with seltzer.

[00:35:17] Seltzer.

[00:35:18] And then I put in, I'll take mint and I'll muddle it, you know, like a mortar and pestle.

[00:35:24] I kind of just crush it a little, put those mint leaves in there.

[00:35:27] I'll do a sprig of rosemary.

[00:35:30] Huh.

[00:35:31] And then I'll do a couple slices of ginger.

[00:35:34] I'll grate the ginger in it.

[00:35:35] I don't mind the little crunchiness of it, but it is delicious.

[00:35:39] Okay.

[00:35:39] And it's very healthy for you.

[00:35:41] So then you can feel all, you know, proud of yourself.

[00:35:44] You're not drinking soda and it's really pretty delicious.

[00:35:47] Okay.

[00:35:48] To get the sugar out.

[00:35:49] So I would say, you know, for weight loss, you have to get the sugar and flour and deep

[00:35:54] fried foods.

[00:35:54] Oh, all that stuff.

[00:35:55] I mean, like I said, I've done keto very, very, very hard to maintain, but I mean, I

[00:36:01] lost weight.

[00:36:01] I felt great.

[00:36:02] I looked good.

[00:36:03] There's a lot to that.

[00:36:05] I am going to ask this.

[00:36:07] Is it just me or, I mean, maybe it's everybody.

[00:36:11] I don't know.

[00:36:12] But, you know, when you change diets, if, if you do some of the things that you're

[00:36:17] suggesting, right, then is it fair to at least let the average listener who maybe doesn't

[00:36:22] bounce around diets, like they change their underwear.

[00:36:25] Is it fair to let them know that their body will not feel amazing immediately?

[00:36:29] Like there's, it's almost like your body has to go through a bit of a change for a few

[00:36:33] days.

[00:36:33] Like it's almost like a, an unintended side effect of changing your diet.

[00:36:37] Does that sound accurate to, or is it just me when I, when I change my diet?

[00:36:40] If you're giving up, if you're trying to cut back on sugar, your body's going to

[00:36:43] try to resist that because it's an addiction.

[00:36:45] It's like heroin.

[00:36:47] There's no, I don't think it's any different.

[00:36:48] It might be even, I can't say, I don't never been addicted to heroin.

[00:36:51] So I don't know if it's harder, but I will tell you when I gave up caffeine, when I was

[00:36:56] in, I think I was in my forties, then I gave up caffeine.

[00:36:59] I remember lying on the bed in pain.

[00:37:01] And I said to my then husband, I said, this isn't worse than heroin.

[00:37:05] I don't know how you would ever quit heroin because this is horrible.

[00:37:09] And it was only caffeine.

[00:37:10] So the body gets very addicted and different people are addicted at different levels.

[00:37:15] And I do, I do drink, I drink one cup of coffee a day.

[00:37:19] I don't ever drink soda anymore.

[00:37:21] I mean, so you're, so you do drink coffee.

[00:37:24] One cup a day.

[00:37:25] But it's caffeine.

[00:37:27] It does.

[00:37:27] Yeah.

[00:37:28] I can have, well, now I've gone back, you know, so I have a little caffeine early in the

[00:37:32] day.

[00:37:33] If I haven't laid out on sleep.

[00:37:35] Makes sense.

[00:37:35] But it is normal to have that, that, that, that, I mean, it could be, it could be, what

[00:37:41] do you think?

[00:37:41] A week or two weeks where, you know, someone maybe who's listening to the show and they go,

[00:37:46] Hey, you know what?

[00:37:46] I really want to make a change in my life.

[00:37:49] Right.

[00:37:49] It's completely unrealistic to think, well, I'm going to throw everything from my pantry

[00:37:54] away.

[00:37:55] I'm going to go to the store.

[00:37:56] I'm going to buy all these new things that are much better for me.

[00:38:00] Tomorrow morning, I'm going to start, you know, three days later, they, they don't feel

[00:38:06] completely dramatically different.

[00:38:07] And so they go back.

[00:38:08] I mean, I think that's one reason why a lot of people quit.

[00:38:11] What's a realistic expectation in your opinion is to give yourself, what is it a week or two

[00:38:16] weeks to really kind of settle in?

[00:38:17] Well, I think to do something that dramatic is setting yourself up for failure.

[00:38:22] Okay.

[00:38:23] Because you're trying to do too much at once.

[00:38:24] I think if in respect to your, your, you know, your body and your psyche and everything,

[00:38:29] small changes are better to try to start developing better habits.

[00:38:33] Like pick one thing.

[00:38:34] Like the one thing would be start with, am I drinking enough water?

[00:38:38] If you drink enough water, you probably won't eat as much.

[00:38:41] That's one thing.

[00:38:42] True.

[00:38:43] And then with that being said, I need to also say, I'm not, I'm not an advocate of drinking

[00:38:48] a lot of water while you're eating, especially if you're over 30, because it diminishes your

[00:38:54] digestive enzymes and everything that's in your acids and your stomach.

[00:38:57] You don't want to dilute that.

[00:38:58] You want to digest your food.

[00:38:59] Causing reflux possibly.

[00:39:02] Well, you don't want to have it, you know?

[00:39:04] So to me, so don't drink anything while you eat.

[00:39:07] How long after you say stringent like that, maybe a little bit of water.

[00:39:12] Okay.

[00:39:12] Depending what you're eating.

[00:39:13] I mean, don't torture yourself ever, but don't be like some people will drink a big

[00:39:16] glass of water before dinner.

[00:39:18] I don't think that's the answer because then I think you're really diluting, diluting

[00:39:22] your digestive juices and then, you know, you want to, your body to digest things as

[00:39:25] well as possible.

[00:39:26] The acid reflux, I think is what I see from a lot of people is eating too much.

[00:39:31] Over, over eating is like the worst thing you can do for your body and your body will

[00:39:35] let you know, you know that.

[00:39:36] Yeah.

[00:39:38] I have reflux and reflux, believe it or not, also shows up on the teeth.

[00:39:42] My dentist will tell you that.

[00:39:45] It does.

[00:39:46] That's true.

[00:39:46] It's like acid in the mouth, right?

[00:39:48] It does wear your teeth down.

[00:39:49] Yeah.

[00:39:51] You know, let me ask you this while we're having this conversation.

[00:39:54] So I drink lemon water, lemon and hot water in the morning.

[00:39:57] And a hygienist once told me it was melting the enamel in my teeth.

[00:40:01] Is that true?

[00:40:03] Not a dentist, not a dentist.

[00:40:05] I restore teeth.

[00:40:07] So I don't want to commit to that one.

[00:40:10] But I would say, I'm not going to say it's impossible.

[00:40:16] She knows more about it than I do.

[00:40:17] So I'll defer to her opinion.

[00:40:18] But I would say it's probably possible because it's an acid if you're doing it often.

[00:40:24] You know, we're supposed to brush our teeth, you know, often, right?

[00:40:27] Because acids and the things that we eat erode that enamel.

[00:40:32] Right.

[00:40:33] Well, I think that probably at least to maybe rinse your mouth after the lemon water is probably good because that was one of the first things I realized that something that that's good for you.

[00:40:41] So lemon juice is alkaline in the body.

[00:40:44] It's an acid that has an alkaline effect when it's in the body.

[00:40:48] But that something could have a good effect and a bad effect at the same time.

[00:40:51] That's another thing with key.

[00:40:52] I'm not recommending eating a huge amount of animal products either.

[00:40:56] I think it's good to have.

[00:40:58] I don't think it's good to be all plant based.

[00:40:59] I don't think it's good to be huge quantities of meat.

[00:41:02] I think the body isn't really equipped for that.

[00:41:04] I think back to the cave person, you know, protocol.

[00:41:07] We didn't we weren't great enough hunters to get meat three times a day.

[00:41:11] But we'll eat eggs for breakfast, a hamburger for lunch and fish for dinner.

[00:41:15] That's a lot of protein.

[00:41:16] That's a lot of animal protein, I think.

[00:41:18] Were we eating grains back then?

[00:41:21] Not at all.

[00:41:22] I mean, I don't think not.

[00:41:23] I mean, I can't imagine a human caveman's walking around after eating whale blubber and going, where's the nearest wheat field?

[00:41:30] I'm hungry.

[00:41:32] I want to grind some wheat.

[00:41:34] Make a tortilla.

[00:41:36] Yeah.

[00:41:37] So I think I think the starchy carbs are a problem to eat too much of.

[00:41:42] And I think oil cooking with oil, if you can eliminate some of that, put you in the right direction.

[00:41:48] We're choosing a better oil, at least.

[00:41:50] Choosing a better oil.

[00:41:51] And, you know, again, you know how you saw when I'm so I'm not that I never use olive oil.

[00:41:56] Like I'll make a vegetable.

[00:41:58] I'll steam a vegetable.

[00:41:59] Usually I'll steam it.

[00:42:01] And then at the end, when it's already cooked, I'll just drizzle some olive oil on top.

[00:42:05] So you get that flavor.

[00:42:07] And actually, when I'm roasting vegetables, because Brussels sprouts are so amazing with coconut oil.

[00:42:12] So now I cook them in vegetable stock.

[00:42:14] I roast them.

[00:42:15] And I keep adding the vegetable stock.

[00:42:17] You know, not like drowning them, but just keeping them moist.

[00:42:20] And then at the very last two minutes, I'll put some coconut oil in there and cover them with them and just let them just so they're amazing.

[00:42:27] Okay.

[00:42:29] Now, do you have a cookbook that you've written yet?

[00:42:33] No, actually, but I have a lot of them.

[00:42:35] You should make one.

[00:42:37] Yeah.

[00:42:37] Yeah.

[00:42:38] I'm going to work.

[00:42:39] Yeah.

[00:42:40] As I was going through your YouTube channel, I thought to myself, geez, you know, if you don't have a cookbook,

[00:42:46] maybe you want to actually put some of these recipes together, you know?

[00:42:49] Yeah.

[00:42:50] I have a website I used for a long time.

[00:42:53] I still have it active because I have a lot of my old classic stuff.

[00:42:57] It's kind of like my archives.

[00:42:58] It's called yourbetter.health.

[00:43:01] Okay.

[00:43:02] Yourbetter.health.

[00:43:03] Every year I pay for that domain name and it's not cheap because someone else wants it, apparently.

[00:43:08] Oh, gosh.

[00:43:09] I mean, if you could sell it for a lot of money, do it and then just get another one.

[00:43:11] You're even better.

[00:43:14] You're even better.

[00:43:15] You're even better health.

[00:43:16] You're even better health.

[00:43:17] And then you've sold the one for a lot of money and you still have something very similar, you know?

[00:43:21] Oh, that's actually a good idea.

[00:43:22] I have to look into that.

[00:43:23] But I have some-

[00:43:24] That can be very shrewd.

[00:43:26] I have some funny videos I did.

[00:43:28] I did a series with a friend of mine, The Health Quest of Tassie and Steph.

[00:43:33] And she was not living a healthy lifestyle at all.

[00:43:36] So we did some videos.

[00:43:37] That was when I first started playing around with that.

[00:43:39] But that's my archive.

[00:43:40] That's my library.

[00:43:42] Now, I do know that you're working on a book.

[00:43:44] Can you tell me what is the status?

[00:43:47] Is this book, does it have a website yet?

[00:43:49] Do you have a publisher?

[00:43:50] Where are we at with that?

[00:43:51] So where we're at with that is I'm developing a program that's going to generate the book.

[00:43:56] So right now I have the program in a presentation phase.

[00:43:59] Okay.

[00:43:59] In a keynote.

[00:44:00] It's a keynote presentation.

[00:44:02] And I was actually going to promote it as a course because it has a lot of good basic information.

[00:44:07] Okay.

[00:44:08] And that's available for order from my website.

[00:44:10] But I'm still tweaking it.

[00:44:13] So on my website also, there's a free self-assessment.

[00:44:17] And it's just stephanieshore.com.

[00:44:19] And the small steps with Steph is my kind of my, it's not my program so much as my kind of motivator.

[00:44:26] I want people to take small steps to improve their health.

[00:44:28] I don't think it's good to do everything at once.

[00:44:30] You set yourself up for failure.

[00:44:31] Yeah.

[00:44:32] Oh, I agree.

[00:44:34] It's a lot.

[00:44:34] And if you just start the first step, you drink enough water.

[00:44:38] Second step, look at your exercise.

[00:44:39] Third, are you sleeping enough?

[00:44:41] Sleep is the foundation of good health.

[00:44:43] Most people don't get enough sleep.

[00:44:44] That's true.

[00:44:45] You actually had something about that on your social media where you extended your sleep.

[00:44:51] And what was the result of doing that?

[00:44:54] And how did you do it?

[00:44:55] How can, like for me, I normally will get about six and a half to seven hours of sleep.

[00:45:01] How can you actually consistently extend that sleep?

[00:45:04] What advice do you have for that?

[00:45:06] You know, even if you just stay in bed and meditate to get your body used to the idea of

[00:45:11] not like leaping out of bed when you wake up.

[00:45:13] Okay.

[00:45:14] You know, that kind of helped me.

[00:45:15] I found that I felt amazing.

[00:45:18] I had more energy and there's a woman doing research.

[00:45:20] I don't remember her name.

[00:45:22] I could find it for you, but she's doing research with some athletes and she got them to add

[00:45:26] two hours to their eight hours of sleep.

[00:45:28] Now they're at 10 and their performance improved.

[00:45:30] Their peak performance was measurably improved.

[00:45:33] Okay.

[00:45:34] So it makes sense.

[00:45:35] I mean, again, what does the body need?

[00:45:37] We don't really think about that so much.

[00:45:39] Our minds are so busy.

[00:45:40] We have so much to do that we've generated.

[00:45:42] You know, we have these busy lifestyles and our bodies kind of run along behind us.

[00:45:46] And that's true.

[00:45:48] What you said is especially the mind for me and I'm sure many others, it's the mind.

[00:45:53] You wake up and the mind just immediately goes into overdrive.

[00:45:56] And, you know, I can't necessarily just very quickly turn it off, which is tough.

[00:46:03] So it's very tough.

[00:46:04] And if you meditate, that's one way to do it.

[00:46:06] Cause then you get into your awareness, which is kind of behind the busy mind.

[00:46:11] That's always telling you what to do next and to better your position.

[00:46:14] I mean, the, the body, you know, the mind is like gear to help you survive.

[00:46:19] Are there any courses that you could think of that are, you know, right off the top of

[00:46:22] your head, like, Hey, you know, go to this to learn how to meditate or anything like

[00:46:26] that, you know, to meditate.

[00:46:29] I can teach you in one minute how to meditate.

[00:46:31] Just start one minute.

[00:46:33] Okay.

[00:46:35] And you can do this with your wife.

[00:46:36] I did this with my mother once.

[00:46:37] It was very enjoyable.

[00:46:39] The first basic exercise to meditate is to just sit quietly with each other and just breathe

[00:46:46] in and pause just for a second and then breathe out and then pause in and out.

[00:46:51] And for two minutes.

[00:46:53] Okay.

[00:46:54] And then every time a thought comes in your head, because like, you know, your mind's

[00:46:57] so busy.

[00:46:58] What am I going to do next?

[00:46:58] What about this?

[00:46:59] I forgot to do that.

[00:47:00] Every time you have one of those thoughts, just think I'll take care of it later and let

[00:47:04] it float out the other side.

[00:47:05] Like just let it, the thought go don't attach to it.

[00:47:08] So you're visualizing, just letting the thought float out of your head.

[00:47:11] It's like, yeah, you don't, you don't say I'll deal with it later.

[00:47:15] I'll deal with it later.

[00:47:16] I'll do that when I'm finished.

[00:47:17] This is my moment that I'm, and you'll find it's fun to do it with someone.

[00:47:23] You can do it without someone too.

[00:47:25] And I would say to start, I mean, when I started meditating again with my, my great late second

[00:47:32] husband, we spent a lot of money.

[00:47:34] We spent, oh my God, a lot of money to do transcendental meditation.

[00:47:38] And they took it to each in a separate room and gave us a special mantra.

[00:47:43] I mean, you can just say peace in your mind while you're breathing or just focus on the

[00:47:48] breath.

[00:47:48] Either one, if you need a word, whatever word make you feel good at thinking about, and that

[00:47:53] don't have it be like a food that's not good for you.

[00:47:55] So don't, don't be thinking pop tart, huh?

[00:47:57] Right.

[00:47:58] Pop tart's not your mantra.

[00:47:59] So it would be, and that's another thing.

[00:48:02] When you think about pop tart, think about what would your life look like?

[00:48:06] What would you look like without pop tarts?

[00:48:08] And I might look the same because that Wendy's four for four, but that's another story.

[00:48:12] Well, that's another, and that's another, another pillar of it, but start thinking about, you

[00:48:17] want to think about yourself on the other side.

[00:48:20] Okay.

[00:48:20] And Jillian Michaels pointed that out to me that one thing that really helped the people

[00:48:24] that she was helping with their diet was to think about how they were going to feel

[00:48:28] when they reached their goal and focus on that.

[00:48:31] But with meditating, you can start with that.

[00:48:34] I can find, I'm, I can find some more exercises for you if you want, but just that two minute

[00:48:38] one, just get started and breathing in and out and breathing in and breathing out.

[00:48:43] There's another thing you can do using the breath that I like to tell people about that.

[00:48:47] If you breathe in to the count of three and breathe out to the count of five, it's very

[00:48:51] relaxing.

[00:48:52] Oh, okay.

[00:48:53] Okay.

[00:48:54] So you want to exhale longer than your inhale.

[00:48:56] Okay.

[00:48:58] Okay.

[00:48:58] I'm going to try that.

[00:49:00] I'm sorry to get yourself.

[00:49:01] I just wanted to finish the thought.

[00:49:03] Yeah, go ahead.

[00:49:03] If you're more revved up, you do the opposite.

[00:49:05] Really?

[00:49:06] You inhale longer and exhale shorter.

[00:49:08] Yeah.

[00:49:08] Okay.

[00:49:09] I've, I've been through breathing exercises before with, with certain, with certain people

[00:49:15] and that, that three to five, I think I'm trying to recall, but I think that one resonated with

[00:49:21] me pretty well, just, you know, physiologically.

[00:49:23] So I'll have to give that a shot.

[00:49:25] I also didn't realize the, the revving up portion.

[00:49:27] No one ever actually mentioned that to me before.

[00:49:30] I think it kind of works.

[00:49:31] Like if you're feeling like kind of tired and you want to bump your energy up, try it.

[00:49:35] Just see what you think.

[00:49:36] No, I like that.

[00:49:37] And you can do that, that those numbers of inhale and exhale, when you do your two minute, you know,

[00:49:43] when you do that by yourself or with somebody.

[00:49:45] Okay.

[00:49:45] And you're just doing this seated, just quietly by yourself seated.

[00:49:51] If you want, I mean, you can seated as best, or you can sit at the lotus position, you know,

[00:49:56] with your hands like that, if you want, but you don't have to just relax.

[00:50:00] Don't cross, don't cross your arms or legs.

[00:50:02] Keep everything like straight.

[00:50:04] You don't cross your ankles either.

[00:50:06] Everything should just be, you know, straight out.

[00:50:09] So everyone who's never meditated before, you can at least verify that a long, calm hum is not required.

[00:50:19] Not at all.

[00:50:20] Not at all.

[00:50:21] Okay.

[00:50:21] Not at all.

[00:50:22] All right.

[00:50:22] And I think the other thing that I think everyone really needs to focus on is making sure they have enough physical activity in their lives.

[00:50:28] Because that's a big issue.

[00:50:30] I believe that.

[00:50:31] And I'm guilty of it, but I believe you're right.

[00:50:36] Yeah.

[00:50:37] I think cardio and strength, you need both and flexibility.

[00:50:41] Okay.

[00:50:42] Well, we, we've probably run over on time, which is shocking actually.

[00:50:49] Um, because it doesn't feel like that.

[00:50:52] Uh, yet, uh, I cannot thank you enough.

[00:50:55] I feel like I could actually talk to you more and we may have to go on another round.

[00:50:59] Um, okay.

[00:51:00] It would be my pleasure.

[00:51:02] Yeah.

[00:51:02] Cause I, I mean, this is highly informative.

[00:51:05] A lot of fun.

[00:51:05] Um, before we go, uh, how do people learn more about you?

[00:51:10] You've mentioned your website.

[00:51:11] If you want, go ahead.

[00:51:12] And that's a stephanieshore.com.

[00:51:14] That's S H O R R.

[00:51:17] Right.

[00:51:18] Or they can hook up with me on any one of social media.

[00:51:22] I think I'm Steph Shore on Facebook and.

[00:51:24] And that's S T E F F on Facebook.

[00:51:27] Let's make life confusing.

[00:51:28] S H O R R on Facebook.

[00:51:30] Yeah.

[00:51:31] Okay.

[00:51:32] Uh, and are there any other, uh, projects that you're working on that people should be

[00:51:36] aware of?

[00:51:38] Um, well, I'm actually trying to work on some pilot programs to do with maybe bus drivers.

[00:51:46] I have worked with bus drivers before in Broward County, try to get work on their weight and

[00:51:51] their.

[00:51:52] Oh, okay.

[00:51:53] That's a very sedentary job.

[00:51:56] Oh, and I owned a gym.

[00:51:58] This is our closing, I guess.

[00:52:00] I owned a gym for 12 years and the insurance companies were brilliant at that point by giving

[00:52:04] free gym memberships to everyone who was at the school board, which is 30,000 in my county

[00:52:10] county workers.

[00:52:11] And a lot of people joined the gym.

[00:52:12] So we ended up working with a group of bus drivers and improving their health.

[00:52:16] And I had the biggest winner competition.

[00:52:18] That was when the biggest loser was going on.

[00:52:21] I thought, well, these people want to be winners.

[00:52:23] So we'll be have the biggest winner.

[00:52:24] And it was actually very successful.

[00:52:27] I like to work with groups as well as one-on-one.

[00:52:30] Okay.

[00:52:31] And people can contact you.

[00:52:32] You also offer, I assume, uh, one-on-one nutrition and health counseling.

[00:52:38] And I do coaching and I can be a mentor.

[00:52:41] Some people text me every day.

[00:52:43] Okay.

[00:52:43] And especially to get started, because it is a big change.

[00:52:46] And we really, we're really not, I, at least I wasn't really taught how to take care of

[00:52:50] the body.

[00:52:52] You know, what is, what is right for it?

[00:52:54] And I think we're all, you, everyone has a different nutrition, nutritional and exercise

[00:52:59] quest to figure out what's the best for their body.

[00:53:02] This is true.

[00:53:02] And sometimes we need a coach.

[00:53:03] And that's another thing.

[00:53:05] Like we invest in coaches for our business.

[00:53:07] We need to invest in coaches for our body.

[00:53:09] If we're not where we want to be.

[00:53:10] And we want to make sure our health is good when we get older.

[00:53:13] Amen to that.

[00:53:14] And then do you have any, uh, any final thoughts at this point?

[00:53:17] I mean, this has been a great interview.

[00:53:19] You've shared actually a lot of wisdom.

[00:53:20] Do you have any final thoughts that you just want to make sure that you get out there and

[00:53:24] people should know before we sign off and then have to get you on the schedule

[00:53:27] to do it again sometime?

[00:53:29] I would say seed oils.

[00:53:32] No good.

[00:53:34] Eliminate sugar as much as you can.

[00:53:36] Very highly processed, highly, both are highly processed and white flour.

[00:53:40] And you'll find your weight starts dropping just those three things.

[00:53:44] And it's not going to be easy because they're in everything.

[00:53:46] You know, when you eat out, ask for less oil.

[00:53:49] I ask when I go and have Indian food, I always write less oil.

[00:53:53] And if I, they take me really seriously, I've noticed it doesn't taste as great, but

[00:53:59] you're paying for it.

[00:54:00] It's actually, it's a, it's a lifelong quest.

[00:54:03] Yeah.

[00:54:04] Okay.

[00:54:04] To show your health and that, and to be patient with yourself and do small changes.

[00:54:08] All right.

[00:54:10] With, uh, with, with, with going to a restaurant, I'm just going to interrupt real quick because

[00:54:14] we'll go out to eat and you just keyed on something.

[00:54:17] And I realized that was your final thought, but I just, I want to, I want to roll back

[00:54:20] real quick.

[00:54:22] I mean, we all eat out.

[00:54:24] What are we supposed to be saying when you go to a restaurant?

[00:54:28] Just, well, it's what you order too.

[00:54:32] Okay.

[00:54:33] I know French fries are delicious, but they're not your friend.

[00:54:36] So you can't get French fries without oil.

[00:54:38] I assume.

[00:54:38] Right?

[00:54:38] No, of course not.

[00:54:39] Cause it's deep fried.

[00:54:40] So anything deep fried is a dumpster fire in your body, honestly.

[00:54:45] So that rarely, you know, have that as a special treat, not have it like French fries every

[00:54:50] time you go out.

[00:54:52] And honestly, I know it's really hard and they're so delicious.

[00:54:55] You have children.

[00:54:56] Oh my God.

[00:54:57] It's so hard.

[00:54:58] Oh,

[00:55:01] maybe, maybe you make French fries at home and bake them and bake them.

[00:55:06] Yeah.

[00:55:06] Delicious.

[00:55:08] And sweet potato fries.

[00:55:10] They are good.

[00:55:10] That kind of thing without, without, I'm sorry.

[00:55:13] I'm just saying.

[00:55:14] So if you don't, I mean, once in a while, nothing's going to kill you.

[00:55:17] I don't think, but just think, I mean, how many times a month do you eat French fries

[00:55:22] or chips?

[00:55:24] How many fingers and toes do you have?

[00:55:25] Right.

[00:55:26] So maybe I would start there.

[00:55:29] Okay.

[00:55:30] Well, again, thank you so much, Stephanie.

[00:55:33] My pleasure.

[00:55:34] For anyone that would like to reach out, I highly recommend reaching out, talking to Stephanie,

[00:55:40] whether it's through coaching or learning more about her or visiting her on social media.

[00:55:45] She's a fantastic resource for all things health.

[00:55:48] We mainly talked mostly nutrition on this particular podcast, but she's, she's a wealth of knowledge

[00:55:56] and a wonderful person.

[00:55:57] I thank you again so much for joining and I look forward to speaking to you soon.

[00:56:02] Well, thank you so much for the interview.

[00:56:04] I really enjoyed it.

[00:56:05] Thank you.

[00:56:05] My pleasure.